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Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby researchingreg » May 7th, 2015, 9:42 pm

I am trying to research my wife's 4 x Great Grandfather,who I believe was in the 58th Regiment of Foot. I thought he was an officer and at at least 3 of his sons became Army officers and one became a Surgeon. He was born in 1782 at Thornbury, Gloucestershire. I have found this information which probably one of the forum experts can decipher.

Marsh, Henry
Surg, 58Ft, 25 Feb ’05.
Pa. July ’09-Feb ’13.
Sal, Burg..

it is an extract from Lionel S Challis's "Peninsular Roll Call" - Which I think means his rank was surgeon and looking at the abbreviations on the site It seems that Pa is the service time in the Pennisular War July '09 to Feb '13 and Burg means service at Burgos, but the abbreviation 'Sal' is not in the list. Could it be Salamanca?
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Re: Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby Josh&Historyland » May 7th, 2015, 10:07 pm

Correct.

The first seems to attest to his joining the 58th on 25 Feb 1805.
I agree Pa. must be Peninsula, service from 1809 to 13.
Burg almost certainly means the siege of Burgos in 1812 and Sal, must also mean Salamanca though this battle preceded the Burgos campaign.

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Re: Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby jf42 » May 8th, 2015, 8:38 am

'Sal.' and 'Burg' would be clasps to which he was entitled on his Peninsula medal, wouldn't they?
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Re: Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby Josh&Historyland » May 8th, 2015, 11:29 am

I suppose that would depend on whether the reference was talking about his medal or his service,
(Does good ole Sal live in this Burg?)

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Re: Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby OXFORDMON » May 8th, 2015, 7:38 pm

He doesn't appear on the medal roll so I presume he died before 1847-8. Salamanca and Burgos presumably outline his service, Challis' roll usually states SM (Silver Medal). Burgos wasn't a clasp anyway, defeats rarely are! :)

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Re: Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby Josh&Historyland » May 8th, 2015, 8:44 pm

Especially damp squib defeats that fall into that odd category. "Failure to successfully take a town."

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Re: Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby jf42 » May 9th, 2015, 7:34 am

OXFORDMON wrote:He doesn't appear on the medal roll so I presume he died before 1847-8. Salamanca and Burgos presumably outline his service, Challis' roll usually states SM (Silver Medal). Burgos wasn't a clasp anyway, defeats rarely are! :)

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Ah yes. Odd then for it to be mentioned in the Roll. Does 'Burg', then, simply means 'present at' the failure to take the town (Nice to be reminded)?
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Re: Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby OXFORDMON » May 9th, 2015, 11:34 am

I don't think Burgos was even a battle honour? So yes it simply means present at. I believe New Orleans was considered as a clasp but was rejected for I guess the same reason (much to the chagrin of veterans and future medal collectors!)

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Re: Henry Marsh - 58th Regiment of Foot

Postby FBC-Elvas, Portugal » August 7th, 2016, 6:45 am

OXFORDMON wrote:I don't think Burgos was even a battle honour?
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It was for the KGL. The German 1st and 2nd KGL Light battalions saved Wellington's bacon and possibly his life at Venta del Pozo on the retreat from Burgos in 1812. They wore the "Venta del Pozo" battle honour until 1918.

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