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Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby scarecrow » March 13th, 2014, 6:16 pm

Hi all,

I bought this from ebay last weekend. I was not sure whether it was the 'real deal', but as the vendor agreed to issue a refund if I was not totally happy, I bought it anyway.

Grateful for any expert appraisal and opinion.

Not sure how to add pictures, but the URL for the original listing is below.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/French-Napole ... true&rt=nc

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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby Bobsentry » March 13th, 2014, 9:57 pm

Hi
It looks genuine the tell tale is if it's two parts and soldered at the eagle wings and body where they overlap the bottom half looking from the front also the lettering is not so crisp as the originals but having said that it looks like a genuine piece
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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby Josh&Historyland » March 13th, 2014, 11:55 pm

Welcome to the Forum sir I hope you enjoy it.

I love that it's condition is "Used" :lol:

To me it doesn't look like a shako plate, it looks more like what a Grenadier would have had as they were all one piece but as far as I know didn't have an eagle sticking on top and, all the shako plates I've seen are both brighter that goes for Grenadiers too (I assume this has been cleaned), with a segment shaped under disc bearing the number of the unit, never seen a company ID on one before, and an Eagle above it, like Bob says I think the two were separate pieces put together, it could be some kind of box plate though.
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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby scarecrow » March 14th, 2014, 7:11 am

Cheers Guys,

I haven't actually seen it yet (I work away during the week). I'll use your comments to examine it more closely when I get home this evening. More comments and advice welcome.
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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby Mark » March 14th, 2014, 11:28 am

Welcome to the forum, scarecrow! What a great item to have - hope it turns out all correct and please do post some pics when it arrives.

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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby scarecrow » March 14th, 2014, 5:58 pm

Hi,

Just got home and opened the box. In answer to your points;

Bob - The plate is all one piece, the lettering looks crisp close up and the clasps are soldered in place. The clasps are bendy metal that would presumably be bent into place when attached.

Josh - i think that this could be made shiny. if it is real, i'm sure it would have been highly polished when worn. should i have a go with some brasso? what is a box plate?

My other observations; it's fairly thin metal that could easily be bent - is this normal? Can anyone tell me what the lettering means?

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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby John Waller » March 14th, 2014, 8:00 pm

Looks like no shako plate I've seen.
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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby Bobsentry » March 14th, 2014, 9:20 pm

All I can say is the repo's are made up of pieces soldered together and anything original is made in one piece from the look of the tabs at the back it was made to attach to something and if it's light it was properly clothing of some kind.
I wonder if it's not French but some satellite of Napoleons army?
What an interesting object be nice to get to the bottom of it and learn all about it
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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby scarecrow » March 14th, 2014, 10:57 pm

I just noticed that my eagle is facing to the left, and 95% of he ones I have seen face to the right. Could this signify anything?
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Re: Napoleonic French Shako Plate

Postby A.Roads » March 14th, 2014, 11:15 pm

i'm sure it would have been highly polished when worn. should i have a go with some brasso?

Cleaning it will immediately halve its value at best. If it is original definitely leave its patina as is, if you want a shiny new one buy a repro.
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