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The Battle of Nations and the end of the Old World

Postby FBC-Elvas, Portugal » October 11th, 2013, 10:37 am

1813: Die Völkerschlacht und das Ende der alten Welt by Andreas Platthaus.
[The Battle of Nations and the end of the Old World – not yet translated into English]

This recent German book about the Battle of Leipzig has started a debate in Germany about the effect the battle [and doubtless the victory] had on the mindset of the German people. The use of Völkerschlacht in the title is significant. The Nations aren’t the Allies, as we might think, but the Prussians, Hanoverians, Brunswickers etc who developed a sense of common cause during the French occupation, long before Germany came into being in 1871. Germans see the Battle of Leipzig as an intellectual battle as much as a military one, according to news reports this week as the bicentennial approaches.

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Re: The Battle of Nations and the end of the Old World

Postby Josh&Historyland » October 14th, 2013, 7:54 pm

The Napleonic wars went a long way to setting the foundations of a united Germany, though just to prove the point, the Saxons and the Prussians never got on during the wars.

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Re: The Battle of Nations and the end of the Old World

Postby FBC-Elvas, Portugal » October 20th, 2013, 8:43 am

Peter Hicks published a good analysis of the effect of Napoleonic occupation on the development of Germany in the Napoleon.Org Bulletin on http://www.napoleon.org/EN/Template/new ... etter=1245

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Re: The Battle of Nations and the end of the Old World

Postby Mark » October 20th, 2013, 2:32 pm

Some great re-enacting photos here from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24601870

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Re: The Battle of Nations ( Leipzig ) refought

Postby Lt.Campers » October 20th, 2013, 7:50 pm

After the 24 hour news bulletins of the battle last week. MDR had a tough act to follow
but their coverage of the battle re-enactment is nothing short of supurb - helped no
doubt by the cast of thousands, provided by the various Napoleonic re-enactment
societies and associations across Europe, to make this a truly multinational force
that takes the field at Leipzig,

Anyway well done to all those who contributed to this weekends battle re-enactment
and Living History events & the BBC for including pics of the event.

MDR video coverage of the Battle of Leipzig, refought
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Re: Leipzig refought quote

Postby Lt.Campers » October 20th, 2013, 10:40 pm

A classic quote from the MDR video, Battle of the Nations, refought.

It's Tea time für die englishe Rocket Truppe . . . . :lol: :lol: 8-)

Can be heard 14:40 secs into the video.
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Re: The Battle of Nations and the end of the Old World

Postby FBC-Elvas, Portugal » October 21st, 2013, 8:40 am

I'm curious about the rocket launchers used by the British re-enactors. Very effective but they look rather modern. Health & Safety?

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Re: The Battle of Nations and the end of the Old World

Postby jeffzcubfan » December 19th, 2013, 9:02 pm

Josh&Historyland wrote:The Napleonic wars went a long way to setting the foundations of a united Germany, though just to prove the point, the Saxons and the Prussians never got on during the wars.

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And the way the Saxons were handled by the Allies, and afterward the Prussians was not the best example of "winning the hearts and minds" of the people of Saxony.

The Bavarians to this day refer to anyone living in the North of Germany as "Preiss" (derogatory Prussian) and the east Germans as "Sau Preiss" (Sau refering, yes...to a pig). So there is definitely some historical rivalry still existing.
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